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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby SteveW » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:38 pm

I'm strangely genuinely looking forward to Celtic Aberdeen tonight and at the same time fully expecting to lose by at least 2 goals....

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby eujin » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:34 pm

Holyjoe wrote:Anyway I reckon I said, in a roundabout way, that Celtic will pump Aberdeen today so we now know that's not going to happen. Or have I jinxed it by just writing that? Fuck...

It has jinx written all over it.

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:06 am

Looks like things have pretty much settled themselves at both the top and the bottom of the league now, with just the European places and relegation playoff place to be decided.

Aberdeen pretty much went off the boil after that defeat to Celtic, looking good for second but the title challenge has fallen flat.

At the bottom it now looks almost certain that St Mirren will drop down to the Championship, they're ten points adrift of second bottom Motherwell with just six games to play, and their survival hopes were pretty much ended by a 5-0 defeat away to Motherwell last night.

Still a few teams in danger of finishing in the playoff position and having a potential two legged match up with either Rangers or Hibs (probably Rangers given the way Hibs are having their customary end of season collapse) to retain Premiership status.

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:04 am

St. Mirren had a great opportunity to pull themselves back into the mix for Premiership survival with their most recent two matches against second bottom Motherwell and third bottom Ross County... as above they lost 5-0 away to Motherwell on Wednesday night and this evening they went down 3-0 at home to Ross County.

Ten points behind the relegation playoff spot and sixteen points from guaranteed safety with just fifteen points to play for, their relegation could be confirmed on the first weekend of post-split fixtures...

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Rothesay Saint » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:57 am

Yeah, it's been really disappointing right from the start. I didn't think Lennon should go, and everyone knew Tommy Craig was always going to be a terrible appointment.

Was hoping that we could make a fight of it, even if we were always favourites to go down, a good relegation six pointer always has a big crowd and can be entertaining even if it's a terrible match.

Still, championship again next season, presumably with a new manager. Hopefully we are on the phone to Dumbarton about bringing in Ian Murray. A good manager, and the added advantage of knowing how to steer a rubbish team to mid-table safety in the championship.
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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:22 pm

Rothesay Saint wrote:Was hoping that we could make a fight of it, even if we were always favourites to go down, a good relegation six pointer always has a big crowd and can be entertaining even if it's a terrible match.


That's the disappointing thing about it.. sometimes teams are relegated through a series of unfortunate events on the final day of the season, other teams tumble through the trap door after a horrendous run in the latter stages of the campaign, and then there are some teams that are completely and utterly gash all season long and never looked like surviving. St. Mirren of 2014/15 are sadly in that final group.

That said, Hamilton's lightning start to the season couldn't have been anticipated by anyone.. they were sitting on 36 points after nineteen matches, they've taken just seven in the fourteen games played since then. Alex Neil left to take the Norwich job back then and I believe his replacement Martin Canning hasn't won a match since. That's the kind of form you'd ordinarily expect from Hamilton and that might just have given hope to St. Mirren of survival.

Tomorrow night probably is the key to title race, or whether there will be one for the remaining six or seven matches at the top end of the table. Celtic host Kilmarnock for their game in hand over Aberdeen. They are currently five points clear, a win to take it to eight would then require Aberdeen to beat Celtic after the split and then for Celtic to lose two more matches (and Aberdeen win all of theirs) for the Dons to take the title. 5-0 it is probably :(

Celtic 73
Aberdeen 68
Inverness 55
Dundee Utd 49
St Johnstone 48
Dundee 44
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Hamilton 43
Partick 38
Kilmarnock 38
Ross County 37
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Motherwell 31
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St Mirren 21

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:32 pm

An absolute clusterfuck from the SPFL yesterday when they announced the post-split Premiership fixtures, as they then announced that the Hearts-Rangers game scheduled to be played on the final day of the Championship season on May 2nd would in fact be put back 24 hours to be broadcast on telly. As has been the case pretty much everywhere at any time, the final round of fixtures in a league season all kick off at the same time so no sides have an unfair advantage of knowing exactly what they need to do, particularly when promotion, relegation or playoff places are at stake.

The initial response from the SPFL was to say that if any other Championship clubs wished to have their games kick off at the same time as that one they'd need to apply to have their games switched, as if that wasn't bad enough they then released the following statement (quotes taken from Twitter as they've rather wisely taken the full thing down from their website):

"Unreasonable to expect all Championship fixtures that weekend to move to Sunday when number...will be unaffected by Hearts v Rangers"

"Hearts v Rangers is scheduled for Sunday 3 May to be broadcast on TV. It is not clear to us why this has caused so much surprise."

"To date, the only feedback we have received is from one Championship club which has asked for match to remain scheduled for Saturday"

"For the avoidance of doubt, we have had no request from Hibernian FC to move its fixture to the Sunday at the time of writing."

"Police Scotland confirmed to us that there were no security issues with the scheduling of all Championship fixtures that weekend."

"Regret any inconvenience to supporters... the circumstances surrounding the matches on the weekend of 2/3 May are in no way unusual."


An absolutely incredible statement, even by the standards of Scottish football. It would appear this morning however they've had a change of heart, and:

The SPFL has issued a statement regarding the fixtures on the final weekend of the Scottish Championship season.

A spokesperson for the SPFL said: “Following consultation between the SPFL, member clubs and broadcast partners regarding the final round of Championship fixtures over the weekend of 2 & 3 May 2015, Sky Sports has now suggested an alternative schedule for its televised Championship match that weekend.

“As a result, we are pleased to confirm all five Championship matches that weekend will now kick-off simultaneously at 12.15pm on Saturday 2 May. The Hearts v Rangers match will be televised live on Sky Sports.

“The SPFL would like to thank Sky Sports for its flexibility and understanding and we’re sure all football fans will look forward to an exciting climax to the Championship season.”


Arseholes, the lot of them.

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby SteveW » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:40 pm

I thought they was a rule about not being able to show games on telly while matches were being played live or did I just dream that?
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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby eujin » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:59 am

SteveW wrote:I thought they was a rule about not being able to show games on telly while matches were being played live or did I just dream that?

You thought there was a rule against showing matches live on TV?

That sounds like my wife's dream :smt108

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:57 am

Does that rule not just prohibit broadcasting games live at 3pm on a Saturday? There must have been tons of times Sky or BT Sport have shown one game on a Tuesday or Wednesday night when some other teams were playing at the same time. It does seem like the sort of rule the SPFL would have in place though..

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby SteveW » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:55 am

I can't really remember but I know they used to not be able to show Euro games on telly when there was Division 2 games on at Alloa or whatever. If they are going to play all the games at 1215 then surely the telly games will affect attendances? Hibs should be cheeky and ask for their game to stay at 3pm. Not sure the SPFL could object...
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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby SteveW » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:46 am

Aberdeen have confirmed a second at worst finish by beating ICT yesterday and are 5 points behind Celtic who play Dundee Utd today.

Elsewhere St Mirren finally decided to show up and beat Killie 4-1 but its probably too late for them as they are 7 points behind Motherwell with just 4 games left to play.

The other interesting story from the weekend is that Paul McGowan of Dundee has to make a mad dash back to his house 75 miles away in Airdrie due to a court ordered curfew and an ankle tag. Even the Martyrs haven't managed that one yet.
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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Rothesay Saint » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:28 pm

SteveW wrote:Aberdeen have confirmed a second at worst finish by beating ICT yesterday and are 5 points behind Celtic who play Dundee Utd today.

Elsewhere St Mirren finally decided to show up and beat Killie 4-1 but its probably too late for them as they are 7 points behind Motherwell with just 4 games left to play.

The other interesting story from the weekend is that Paul McGowan of Dundee has to make a mad dash back to his house 75 miles away in Airdrie due to a court ordered curfew and an ankle tag. Even the Martyrs haven't managed that one yet.


Only because their crimes against football case hasn't come up yet.

Typical relegated team performance yesterday, suddenly the pressure is off after five games without a goal we hit four. Definitely too little too late, but would be nice to get a couple more wins, even if it is just to get a bit of momentum for next season.
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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:08 am

Aberdeen sit on 74 points and with four games to go are on target to break the 80 point mark. That's a phenomenal effort for a non Old Firm team in Scotland, I believe 74 is already the highest points total for a non-OF team in any season, and it's also worth pointing out (which I'm sure someone at the club will do in an interview soon) that 79 points was enough for Celtic to win the title in 2012/13 and Aberdeen could well eclipse that this year.

Sadly though it's been the games against Celtic that have put paid to the title dream, three defeats in three encounters clearly puts Celtic out in front as excluding those contests Aberdeen actually have a better record this season against the other ten league clubs than Celtic do.

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Re: Scottish Football 2014/15

Postby Holyjoe » Thu May 14, 2015 6:44 am

Celtic made it four wins out of four against Aberdeen at the weekend and they're sitting fourteen points clear at the top of the table with two rounds of matches to go. It's been pretty much the same story in all those four matches, Aberdeen pressing, pressing, pressing, missing a chance or two and then conceding and collapsing. It was only a 1-0 defeat on Sunday but they were never really likely to get back into it after conceding.

Oh and St. Mirren's relegation has been confirmed, Rothesay Saint will be pleased to have that pointed out I'm sure. Still all to play for in the battle to avoid the relegation playoffs and a potential two legged game against Hibernian (or maybe Rangers) - Motherwell, Kilmarnock and Ross County could all still finish second bottom. Depending on how results go this weekend, there's the potential for County and Kilmarnock to play out a convenient draw on the final day and condemn Motherwell to the playoffs regardless of their results. The managers of both sides have stated they will not do that, but as we all know there's been previous for such a mutually beneficial arrangement in football before...


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