South Korea's 2022 World Cup bid

sjc_three · **Posted:** Sun May 30, 2010 11:13 am

I get the impression that was the deciding factor. South Africa and the Ukraine have clearly provided considerable headaches for the organisers. I suspect Brazil will bring one or two along the way, although in fairness their economy is doing pretty well at the moment, so I could well be doing them a disservice there. Either way, it all continues to point to a 2018 World Cup for England for me. (famous last words!) If it's true that they wish to steer away from joint bids and the 2018 World Cup is destined for Europe, then surely England would be a considerably smoother process for the organisers than Russia.

MipoFanatic · **Joined:** Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:50 am **Posts:** 1925

Funny, I didn't even know this was happening. Suppose it got lost in all of the pre-World Cup hype.

You have to feel for Turkey. Three bids, three defeats - and this last loss was by a single vote. I wonder if Pyeongchang will suffer a similar fate next summer when the 2018 Winter Olympics' host city is announced.

As others have said, problems with Ukraine and South Africa have been in the news often in recent months. Also, did anyone else notice that all of Turkey's primary stadia are in the west side of the country? They might as well have dubbed it "Euro 2016: a Kurdish-free tournament!". :albino:

Anyone know why the Italians took such a hammering from the UEFA bid inspectors? Was it true that their stadia are crap? Or are UEFA weary of the massive corruption in the Azzurro Savoia?

And one last thought: all three bid logos were crap. France's is arguably the worst. You'd expect them to hire a proper graphic design to do a real job of it, now that they've won it.

sjc_three · **Posted:** Mon May 31, 2010 12:34 pm

MipoFanatic wrote:

You have to feel for Turkey. Three bids, three defeats - and this last loss was by a single vote.

Was chatting with a Turkish guy on the beach yesterday about this. He was devastated about it. Really believed they were going to get it and said the whole country would have gone mental for it. I believe him. When I think back to the apathy there was in France during the World Cup in 98, it makes me spit with rage. They barely got excited about their own team until they reached the semi finals, let alone the other games. I remember leaving a bar during the half time of one of their group games to find the world around going on as usual, people walking about doing their shopping, etc. In England the streets would be deserted. They don't deserve Euro 2016. I feel gutted for the Turks.

nzfooty · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:22 am

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Australia drops out of race to host 2018 World Cup

England's chances of hosting the 2018 World Cup have been handed a boost after Australia dropped out of the race to focus on the 2022 tournament.

The United States is now the only non-European bidder still involved.

Russia and joint bids from Holland and Belgium, and Spain and Portugal are the other possible locations for the event.

"It became apparent that there was a growing movement to stage the 2018 World Cup in Europe," said Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke.

"The FFA [Football Federation Australia] has displayed an exemplary level of solidarity with Europe and the European bidding nations."

Holyjoe · **Joined:** Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:57 pm **Posts:** 5407

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FIFA praises Korea's efforts toward world peace
07-25-2010

FIFA delegation for the bid to host the World Cup in 2022 Sunday praised South Korea’s efforts to contribute to the world peace by holding the tournament.

Chief delegate Harold Mayne-Nicholls emphasized the most notable fact he discovered regarding the nation’s effort to host the football gala is based on world peace.

“I confirmed that Seoul’s endeavor is to deliver what today’s world needs most ― 'peace for men,’” the Chilean head said.

The five-member team completed its inspection Sunday, after a four-day visit with focus on related infrastructure and facilities and meetings with relevant authorities including President Lee Myung-bak.

"The delegates examined the preparation process with scrutiny and objectivity,” Chairman Han Sung-joo of the Bid Committee said.

“I believe the FIFA officials have obtained a satisfactory response from us, and hope such information will help in producing a fair and precise proposal,” Han added.

Seoul’s Bid Committee was eager to show the nation’s enthusiasm for the sport at Seoul Plaza by emphasizing its importance as a landmark since the 2002 World Cup co-hosted by South Korea and Japan.

As the delegation took note of the longing of the fans, the inspectors also paid attention to whether Seoul Plaza met the conditions to hold the “Fan Fest.” The term refers to an outdoor stage that is equipped with safety barricades, space to host up to 50,000 spectators, and screen games free of charge.

The delegation headed to the Seoul World Cup Stadium next, the venue that hosted the tournament opener in 2002.

The Chilean committee head examined the condition of the turf, control center, locker rooms, press room, and media facilities, and mentioned that the bid committee would need more seats to be added to meet the requirements of the football governing body. The stadium can hold up to 65,000 spectators, while the FIFA rules require a capacity of over 80,000. The bid committee currently plans to extend the stadium to accommodate 83,500.

The inspectors also visited the National Football Center in Paju, Gyeonggi Province on Friday. The training site equipped with two fine pitches looked satisfactory but reportedly needs to work on maintaining its stands.

Next the five-member team headed down to Ulsan on Saturday, a city in the south-eastern part of the nation. The FIFA officials’ main interest was in Munsu Cup Stadium which hosted World Cup matches in 2002 and its tourism infrastructure. The home of the K-League’s Ulsan Tigers hosted two group matches and a quarterfinal. The delegation was concerned about how the city government runs the venue.

South Korea is making its second attempt to host the World Cup. The nation is trying to be the sole host of the tournament, as is Japan.

Australia and Qatar are also competing, while bids from Belgium and the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal, England, Russia, and the United States have been made for both the 2018 and the 2022 finals.

2018 World Cup will likely be held in Europe, and Asia is the likely destination for the following tournament, as FIFA does not let one continent host the event consecutively. A possible bid from China for the 2026 tournament would complicate the matter for its Asian neighbors.

FIFA will decide the host nations of the 2018 and 2022 World Cup on Dec. 2 in Switzerland.

MipoFanatic · **Joined:** Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:50 am **Posts:** 1925

Gotta love how the Koreans trot this out with every tournament bid, despite knowing full well that it would do sweet F.A. to contribute to "world peace". :roll:

eujin · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:40 pm

The fact that Seoul World Cup needs to add seats just shows what is wrong with this FIFA selection process. I wonder if the panel would've said the same if they'd been taken to an FC Seoul game. Probably they would. It's all a sorry, sorry mess.

Has anyone ever been to the NFC in Paju? Are the stands really in need of repair? And I wonder what the concern was about how the city run Ulsan Munsu. Of the 2002 sites I'd say it was the one in the worst state, but it's not exactly decrepit. Odd that they'd take them down there and not just to Suwon or Jeonju say.

A few months ago it seemed there was a fair bit of momentum getting behind the Qatar bid, who also have friendly, high placed officials and plenty of money to swing around. I wonder if the sentiment has changed much since the World Cup.

nzfooty · **Posted:** Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:51 am

The Chain Of 2018-2022-2026 World Cup Hosting Bids
From The Just Football Blog

It’s fairly absurd that the World Cup a full generation away from us in
2026 is critical for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosting bids, but there’s
a chain reaction if China signals even a little more firmly that it will
bid for the 2026 World Cup before FIFA’s 24-man Executive Committee makes
its determinations on 2018 and 2022 in December. With China looking like a
shoo-in for 2026 if it bids, that decision would essentially guarantee the
United States would win the race for the 2022 World Cup.

This is because FIFA will not allow one confederation to host two
consecutive World Cups, and China would be a shoo-in for 2026; with a
European nation 99% certain to get the 2018 World Cup, that means 2022
will go to one of five bidders: Australia, South Korea, Japan, Qatar or
the United States. And only the latter is not in the Asian Football
Confederation alongside China, following Australia’s move on the pitch to
Asia a few years ago.

Meanwhile, Simon Kuper’s dismissal of Qatar’s bid in the Financial Times
this week prompted a swift response. Kuper wrote that “Qatar is spending
oil money on lobbying. But few foreigners want a World Cup played in the
desert, in indoor stadiums in 40-degree heat. Choosing Qatar would look a
choice for money. That would make Fifa look tacky.”

That prompted Qatar 2022 chief executive Hassan Al Thawadi to respond in a
letter published in the FT:

“First, the Qatar 2022 bid committee, in co-operation with a talented team
of local and international science, technology and environmental experts,
has developed the capability to cool outdoor stadiums, training grounds,
FIFA fan fests/fan zones and walkways from metro stations to venues.
Players and fans will enjoy temperatures not exceeding 27°C, and all of
this will be accomplished using carbon-neutral technology. These cooled
outdoor stadiums will be in a concentrated area, allowing fans to see more
than one match per day. Second, Qatar is a vibrant and dynamic economy,
set to grow by up to 20 per cent this year according to some estimates.
While petroleum and gas resources are a key part of our growth, they are
by no means the only source of revenue. Thousands of foreign and domestic
companies providing a variety of non-energy related goods and services are
based here. Furthermore, Qatar’s bid is playing firmly within FIFA’s
rules, which include full disclosure of fund disbursement and written
notification prior to talking with any FIFA’s executive committee member.”

Kuper is probably right; Qatar’s bid would have been stronger as part of a
regional bid, as Todd Reisz points out. Right now, the favourites are the
global heavyweights: Russia for 2018, United States for 2022 and China for
2026, quite the superpower line-up.

Rothesay Saint · **Posted:** Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:40 pm

nzfooty wrote:

That prompted Qatar 2022 chief executive Hassan Al Thawadi to respond in a
letter published in the FT:

“First, the Qatar 2022 bid committee, in co-operation with a talented team
of local and international science, technology and environmental experts,
has developed the capability to cool outdoor stadiums, training grounds,
FIFA fan fests/fan zones and walkways from metro stations to venues.
Players and fans will enjoy temperatures not exceeding 27°C, and all of
this will be accomplished using carbon-neutral technology. These cooled
outdoor stadiums will be in a concentrated area, allowing fans to see more
than one match per day. Second, Qatar is a vibrant and dynamic economy,
set to grow by up to 20 per cent this year according to some estimates.
While petroleum and gas resources are a key part of our growth, they are
by no means the only source of revenue. Thousands of foreign and domestic
companies providing a variety of non-energy related goods and services are
based here. Furthermore, Qatar’s bid is playing firmly within FIFA’s
rules, which include full disclosure of fund disbursement and written
notification prior to talking with any FIFA’s executive committee member.”

That actually sounds quite good. :oops:

eujin · **Posted:** Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:56 pm

I also heard that they were planning to build the stadiums in such a way that the top decks can be dismantled after the World Cup and donated to deserving nations as ready made stadia. That would still leave a few 20,000 all-seaters in Qatari towns of 4,000 people, but it is an interesting idea nonetheless and shows what you can do if you basically have an infinite amount of money.

http://www.qatar2022bid.com/qatars-bid/stadiums

nzfooty · **Posted:** Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:49 pm

Bellend says England is easiest place to stage 2018 World Cup

• Fifa president buoys hopes for bid to host tournament
• 'Everything is here – fans, stadiums, infrastructure'

And also this:

England's rivals for 2018 World Cup

How bids from Russia, Belgium-Holland, Spain-Portugal and the USA are shaping up

In terms of 2022, the Asia nations hopping to host that tournament (Qatar, Korea, Japan) must be hoping China won't be making any noises about 2026 in the next few months. However, even then USA look like a good bet for 2022.

Let's hope all the candidates learn from the Belgium-Holland bid:

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Any goodwill from Fifa has been tested this month after Dutch Liberal politicians demanded an end to the favourable tax conditions that football's ruling body enjoys within host nations.

South Korea's 2022 World Cup bid

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