2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby eujin » Thu May 12, 2011 9:54 pm

Gamba left it pretty late, but in the end a win wouldn't have been enough for Jeju anyway. So the Japanese get the clean sweep of four teams through this year although the Koreans managed to win three groups. a nice little all Osaka derby and some a couple of tough home ties for the Koreans in the knock-out round. Curiously enough Al Ain ended up getting the most points of any of the UAE teams. It pays to be in the East it would seem, or is it just the jet-lag?

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby TokenAussie » Fri May 13, 2011 6:46 pm

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/jesse-fi ... or-the-ACL?

With Australian teams once again roadkill on the road to the AFC Champions League final in November, the question has arisen in various media outlets why local teams even bother at all with Asia's greatest club football competition. And it's a valid point to raise.
Ten times Australian sides have had a crack at the cherry in five seasons of ACL football. Only Adelaide (twice) and Newcastle Jets have made the last 16.

Why? Superficially the answer seems simple.

Teams work their butt off (and spend a considerable amount of money) to get in a position to win the Premier's Plate or get to an A-League grand final to earn that chance to play in the ACL, only to have to wait near on a year to compete, in the off-season and often without the same cattle on the park that earned it that chance in the first place.

Scheduling, salary caps and lack of roster depth cruel Australian campaigns even before they've begun. And the corollary of these poor showings is fan apathy, low TV ratings and a heavy financial toll for clubs. If you lose group matches in the ACL, you get nothing.

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby eujin » Fri May 13, 2011 9:53 pm

TokenAussie wrote:If you lose group matches in the ACL, you get nothing.

There is also a US$30,000 travel subsidy from the AFC per away match for the group games and the hosting club is supposed to pay for the hotel and meals. But I wonder what the break-even is. Do the Aussie teams reckon they're losing money on the ACL? Both Melbourne and Sydney should've made of order US$100,000 in point bonuses this year, plus gate receipts from 3 home games on crowds of 5-7,000 each.

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby TokenAussie » Fri May 13, 2011 10:48 pm

The main point of the article is that the A-League needs to starts it's season earlier and finish earlier as the team that represent the A-League top clubs are the best teams of the Previous season so they often lose the players that have won said titles/hight of league by the time the ACL comes around. Everyone in Aussie football wants to see better outcomes for A-League teams in the ACL, but the A-League's season is totally out of sync with the ACL. So we are in the end NOT sending the A-Leagues teams that have won titles in Australia, but drained sides that often are re-structured to meet the salary cap. Read the entire article, as I have only shown a brief quote (it is an editorial).

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby Sampo » Sun May 15, 2011 1:37 pm

The MLS has had a similar problem as the A-League, though certainly not on the same scale. It wasn't until this season that the league actually allowed Champions League teams to reschedule league games to allow for rest days with continental matches, and that was only because Salt Lake City were doing well in the later stages.

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4

Postby nzfooty » Sat May 21, 2011 11:01 am

For completeness sake, here are Round 5 and Round 6 results with final standings:

West Asia

Group A

Sepahan (Iran) 1 – 1 (Saudi Arabia) Al-Hilal
Al-Gharafa (Qatar) 5 – 2 (United Arab Emirates) Al-Jazira

Al-Jazira (United Arab Emirates) 1 – 4 (Iran) Sepahan
Al-Hilal (Saudi Arabia) 2 – 0 (Qatar) Al-Gharafa

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1. Sepahan (Iran)      6  4 1 1  14:5  +9  13
2. Al-Hilal (S Arabia) 6  4 1 1  11:6  +5  13
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3. Al-Gharafa (Qatar)  6  2 1 3   6:7  -1   7
4. Al-Jazira (UAE)     6  0 1 5   7:20 -13  1





Group B

Al-Sadd (Qatar) 2 – 2 (Iran) Esteghlal
Al-Nassr (Saudi Arabia) 4 – 0 (Uzbekistan) Pakhtakor

Pakhtakor (Uzbekistan) 1 – 1 (Qatar) Al-Sadd
Esteghlal (Iran) 2 – 1 (Saudi Arabia) Al-Nassr

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1. Al-Sadd (Qatar)     6  2 4 0   8:6  +2  10
2. Al-Nassr (S Arabia) 6  2 2 2  10:7  +3   8
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3. Esteghlal (Iran)    6  2 2 2  11:10 +1   8
4. Pakhtakor (Uzbek)   6  1 2 3   8:14 -6   5





Group C

Persepolis (Iran) 3 – 2 (Saudi Arabia) Al-Ittihad
Bunyodkor (Uzbekistan) 3 – 2 (United Arab Emirates) Al-Wahda

Al-Wahda (United Arab Emirates) 2 – 0 (Iran) Persepolis
Al-Ittihad (Saudi Arabia) 1 – 1 (Uzbekistan) Bunyodkor


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1. AlIttihad(S Arabia) 6  3 2 1  10:5  +5  11
2. Bunyodkor (Uzbek)   6  2 3 1   8:6  +2   9
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3. Al-Wahda (UAE)      6  1 3 2   6:8  -2   6
4. Persepolis (Iran)   6  1 2 3   6:11 -5   5




Group D

Emirates (United Arab Emirates) 0 – 1 (Iran) Zob Ahan
Al-Shabab (Saudi Arabia) 1 – 0 (Qatar) Al-Rayyan

Al-Rayyan (Qatar) 2 – 0 (United Arab Emirates) Emirates
Zob Ahan (Iran) 0 – 1 (Saudi Arabia) Al-Shabab

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1. Zob Ahan (Iran)     6  4 1 1   7:3  +4  13
2. Al-Shabab(S Arabia) 6  3 2 1   8:4  +4  11
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3. Emirates (UAE)      6  2 0 4   6:10 -4   6
4. Al-Rayyan (Qatar)   6  1 1 4   4:8  -4   4

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

Postby nzfooty » Sat May 21, 2011 11:20 am

East Asia

Group E

Melbourne Victory (Australia) 1 – 1 (Japan) Gamba Osaka
Tianjin Teda (China) 3 – 0 (South Korea) Jeju United

Gamba Osaka (Japan) 2 – 0 (China) Tianjin Teda
Jeju United (South Korea) 1 – 1 (Australia) Melbourne Victory


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1. Gamba Osaka (Japan)     6  3 1 2  13:7  +6  10
2. Tianjin Teda (China)    6  3 1 2   8:6  +2  10
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3. Jeju United (S Korea)   6  2 1 3   6:10 -4   7
4. Melbourne V (Australia) 6  1 3 2   7:11 -4   6





Group F

Nagoya Grampus (Japan) 1 – 0 (China) Hangzhou Greentown
FC Seoul (South Korea) 3 – 0 (United Arab Emirates) Al-Ain

Hangzhou Greentown (China) 1 – 1 (South Korea) FC Seoul
Al-Ain (United Arab Emirates) 3 – 1 (Japan) Nagoya Grampus

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1. FC Seoul (South Korea)  6  3 2 1   9:4  +5  11
2. Nagoya Grampus (Japan)  6  3 1 2   9:6  +3  10
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3. Al-Ain (UAE)            6  2 1 3   4:9  -5   7
4. Hangzhou G (China)      6  1 2 3   3:6  -3   5





Group G

Arema (Indonesia) 0 – 4 (Japan) Cerezo Osaka
Shandong Luneng (China) 1 – 2 (South Korea) Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (South Korea) 6 – 0 (Indonesia) Arema
Cerezo Osaka (Japan) 4 – 0 (China) Shandong Luneng

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1. Jeonbuk (South Korea)   6  5 0 1  14:2  +12 15
2. Cerezo Osaka (Japan)    6  4 0 2  11:4  +7  12
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3. Shandong Luneng (China) 6  2 1 3   9:8  +1   7
4. Arema (Indonesia)       6  0 1 5   2:22 -20  1




Group H

Kashima Antlers (Japan) 2 – 0 (China) Shanghai Shenhua
Suwon Samsung Bluewings (South Korea) 3 – 1 (Australia) Sydney FC

Kashima Antlers (Japan) 2 – 1 (Australia) Sydney FC
Shanghai Shenhua (China) 0 – 3 (South Korea) Suwon Samsung Bluewings


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1. Suwon SB (South Korea)  6  3 3 0  12:3  +9  12
2. Kashima Antlers (Japan) 6  3 3 0   9:3  +6  12
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3. Sydney FC (Australia)   6  1 2 3   6:11 -5   5
4. Shanghai S (China)      6  0 2 4   3:13 -10  2

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

Postby eujin » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:57 pm

Ratings for the ACL up 79% in Korea compared to 2010. A whooping 46,423 viewers on average watched the games on MBC or SBS. That's almost one person for each empty seat. Quick, build more stadiums! :albino:


http://www.espnstar.com/football/afc/news/detail/item644286/AFC-Champs-League-ratings-on-the-up/

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

Postby anamerican » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:17 pm

eujin wrote:Ratings for the ACL up 79% in Korea compared to 2010. A whooping 46,423 viewers on average watched the games on MBC or SBS. That's almost one person for each empty seat. Quick, build more stadiums! :albino:


http://www.espnstar.com/football/afc/news/detail/item644286/AFC-Champs-League-ratings-on-the-up/


The increase is due to the absence of Seongnam in the competition. :) :)

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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

Postby Rothesay Saint » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:32 am

70 million people in Japan watched the ACL games?

Call me cynical, but I suspect that isn't true. :oops:
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Re: 2011 AFC CL Group Stage R4, R5, R6

Postby eujin » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:50 am

Rothesay Saint wrote:70 million people in Japan watched the ACL games?

Call me cynical, but I suspect that isn't true. :oops:

Cynical, that'll be the total number of viewers for all games just added together. Every saddo who watched every game will be counted multiple times.


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