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2018 World Cup qualification

Postby Holyjoe » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:23 am

So far so good for Korea under Stielike, they've won seven out of seven in qualification so far scoring 24 goals without reply and they'll probably not have to play the eighth and final match against Kuwait that was postponed the other day (hence the 1-0 friendly victory over Thailand in Bangkok that was hastily arranged to take its place).

The draw for the next round of qualification is to be made on April 12th with the soon-to-be-announced FIFA rankings determining the seedings, but it almost definitely looks as if Korea will be one of the second seeds along with Japan and therefore the two countries will not meet in final qualification. There is of course the potential then for the two to meet in the playoff were they to struggle in qualification but that's pretty unlikely.

Actual seedings will be announced on April 7th when the next FIFA rankings are released but the twelve sides that will compete for the four automatic qualification spots are as follows (with projected seedings):

1) Iran, Australia
2) South Korea, Japan
3) Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan
4) UAE, China
5) Qatar, Iraq
6) Syria, Thailand

Fingers crossed for Iran rather than the Aussies then...

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby Holyjoe » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:27 am

Worth pointing out that China only made it through to the final round of qualifying because North Korea threw away a 2-1 lead against the Philippines.. leading with just six minutes to go they conceded an equaliser in the 84th and then a third goal in the 90th minute which meant that China just managed to pip the North Koreans to the fourth and final best runner-up spot.

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby daeguowl » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:46 pm

Holyjoe wrote:Worth pointing out that China only made it through to the final round of qualifying because North Korea threw away a 2-1 lead against the Philippines.. leading with just six minutes to go they conceded an equaliser in the 84th and then a third goal in the 90th minute which meant that China just managed to pip the North Koreans to the fourth and final best runner-up spot.


I think the system was flawed and Iraq benfitted massively from it. Due to Indonesia's exclusion, they disgarded the results from the bottom team in each group. But Indonesia would have been the third or fourth seed in their group, which means that Iraq got to keep the easy 6 points earned against Taiwan whereas other teams had to forego the equivalent six points earnt against Bhutan etc...

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby paquebot » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:00 am

Seems a Chinese fan has made a bit of a stir by creating a match poster using imagery of Chinese troops in Korea during the Korean War:

한국VS중국 축구 ‘포스터’ 논란…中 “힘차게 압록강 건너자”

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby MipoFanatic » Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:33 am

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby Martyrs Forever » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:30 pm

They only drew 0-0 with Syria in Malaysia though.
I think Japan lost to the UAE last week! Uzbekistan look like they might make it to Russia.....or back to Russia if you want to be all Soviet....

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby Holyjoe » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:05 pm

Saudi Arabian press are reporting that the KFA are about to punt Stielike and replace him with former Al-Ahli and one time Tottenham boss Christian Gross. Snacks of doomed ocean liner deckchair shuffling to me if that is indeed what they're planning, though sales of printed subway tickets will increase when he's appointed so there's a plus point there I guess...

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby SteveW » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:20 pm

Saw this on twitter this morning and thought he'd been sacked but looks like it's just a rumour.

Would be a bit of a strange one but not unwelcome.
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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby Holyjoe » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:45 am

Holyjoe wrote:The draw for the next round of qualification is to be made on April 12th with the soon-to-be-announced FIFA rankings determining the seedings, but it almost definitely looks as if Korea will be one of the second seeds along with Japan and therefore the two countries will not meet in final qualification. There is of course the potential then for the two to meet in the playoff were they to struggle in qualification but that's pretty unlikely.


Hahaha I am a fucking comedian... Korea are shite.

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby MipoFanatic » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:40 pm

Apparently travelling Korea fans in Iran are advised not to wear red and not to cheer if Korea scores and/or wins.

And you thought North Korea was bad...

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby eujin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:58 pm

MipoFanatic wrote:And you thought North Korea was bad...


The Iranian authorities have already tried to reschedule the Tehran game, which was arranged four years ago,

That's quite impressive to organise four years in advance that both teams would qualify to this stage and be drawn against each other.

What the journalist probably means is that the FIFA fixture date was decided four years ago, but even that sounds a bit far fetched.

It's a bit late now, but it would be good to see FIFA taking these sort of things a bit more seriously. Ashura is a big deal in Iran as anyone who knows anything about the country would know. It's not like they pick the date out of a hat at random either. There's even a list on wikipedia if FIFA need some help. People would rightly object if they made England play on Boxing Day or Ireland on Easter Sunday. It would be against the law to make Germany play at home on Good Friday and would FIFA even dream of doing that? Organising a football tournament to avoid everyone's holidays and not upset the big money men is a pain in the arse, but that's life. They should have moved the date.

As it is, I assume the match is going ahead?

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby SteveW » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:18 pm

I'm kind of torn on this one.

On one hand it does seem like FIFA should have worked around important days in each country on the other religious leaders should get tae with their desire to tell people what they can or can't do on particular days.

I think FIFA or UEFA already basically forced Northern Ireland to play games on Sundays and football goes on in all sorts of places on traditional holidays.

For me the main thing is that the Iranian authorities need to be able to guarantee the safety of Korean fans who do wear red and sing and celebrate.
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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby eujin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:55 pm

SteveW wrote:For me the main thing is that the Iranian authorities need to be able to guarantee the safety of Korean fans who do wear red and sing and celebrate.

That's a good question. If there's a law that says you're not allowed to sing and dance in public then I expect the police would detain people who do. I'd like to think that the Korean police would protect people who want to sing and dance at a football match after a ferry capsizes, but I'm not sure they would. There was some aggro at the last World Cup qualifier between the two sides in Ulsan in 2013, with Korean fans throwing bottles at the Iranians. The police did nothing, so there's every chance of something kicking off again.

On a related note, I wonder if the English FA is even pretending that they expect the Russian police to protect England fans from Russian hooligans if they do qualify for the World Cup. The Foreign Secretary accuses the Russian state of barbarism, but at the same time expects them to look after loud-mouth fans. I'm glad I'm not the one who has to write the travel advice for that.

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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby SteveW » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:43 pm

I guess if it's illegal to celebrate then the fans would or should be arrested for doing so. Which to me suggests the game shouldn't be played. So you either rearrange it or Iran forfeit it.

But of course FIFA have already signed up to hosting the WC in Qatar where it's illegal to be gay or have a drink so that's put a bit of a dampener on any moral high ground.

As for Russia, I think it's only safe that England withdraw from qualification. And Malta, Lithuania, Slovenia and Slovakia should also join them and show solidarity.
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Re: 2018 World Cup qualification

Postby MipoFanatic » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:52 am

If Iran complained within a day or two or the fixture being released, then fair enough. But if they left their protest to the last minute...

A concession would have been for Iran to play away that day: reserve the dates of the two Iran vs. South Korea fixtures. Iran still wouldn't have been pleased with people watching their TV at home and celebrating during a religious day or mourning, but better than a home match?

Korea fans seem to have respected the request for dark colours of clothing; the women even wore headscarves.

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Lots of celebrating from Iran fans after their goal, though. Does the sports minister get his head lopped off?


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