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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:33 pm

Well, take this dubious source for what it's worth. It states that Porterfield was at Al-Ittihad in Saudi, and "handled" the Omani national team, and cites years for both. The dates he gives fit in perfectly with the timeline that I've pieced together from various sources.

On the other hand, it also says that he had a five-year stay at Chelsea, when it fact it was two stays (first as the assistant manager), punctuated by a spell with Reading. So there goes his credibility...

I'm not sure if FIFA match reporters are all that trustworthy either, but this archive of FIFA.com a match preview states that Porterfield has previously "coached" Al-Ittihad.

And this archived article in the Sunday Herald about Ian's peripatetic management career, in which the reporter actually did an interview with Porterfield, states he was with Al-Ittihad and the Omani national side. One would assume he would have quickly run through Porterfield's career history with him, but who knows!

Interestingly, according to this article, Porterfield apparently interviewed for the India job back in 2006.
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:06 pm

Another odd and dodgy source. This time it's an archived Trinidadian newspaper, interview Porterfield prior to the World Cup qualifier playoff between T&T and Bahrain in 2005. It quotes Porterfield as saying:

“I felt that Bahrain was a little fortunate but I used to play games there in the 90s with Al Ittihad and Oman and the standard of football has really improved. They have come a long way.”


So that confirms that Porterfield was with a club called "Al-Ittihad". The only problem is that pretty much every country in the Middle East had a club called Al-Ittihad.

The article is a bit dubious as it credits Porterfield for winning the AFC Champions League with Al-Ittihad, which never happened.
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:16 pm

And here's another odd find: an auction in the UK back in 2000, in which there's an Al-Ittihad (Saudi) shirt signed by Porterfield from "1995".

This may be as close as we'll ever get...
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:42 am

Here's a "word cloud" of chapters 1-8:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m71/ ... Ch1-8a.jpg
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby Hootsmon » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:30 pm

MipoFanatic wrote:Here's a "word cloud" of chapters 1-8:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m71/ ... Ch1-8a.jpg


Hmm, interesting! I enjoyed looking through that...was surprised to see that the words "shame" and "rat-faced shit weasel" aren't in there, but I guess you're concentrating on Busan rather than any other ROKfootball-frequently-discussed topics :lol:

Also, from a writing point of view, was interesting to see "suddenly" so prominent. As one of my professors said at university, should be careful when using that word. Very few things in life happen suddenly...they usually just happen.

I'm looking forward to reading this - do us ROKfootball members get a signed copy? :smt117

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:47 pm

If you suddenly send me W20,000 you will suddenly find yourself with a signed copy!

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby Hootsmon » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:14 pm

MipoFanatic wrote:If you suddenly send me W20,000 you will suddenly find yourself with a signed copy!

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I suddenly felt quite excited...you got yourself a deal! :smt109

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:53 am

Good to see that HRH King Urumov of Sojudonia is featuring heavily in this work of literary genius... perhaps he will finally get the recognition he deserves? It's not too late for him to get that big move his talent so desperately deserved. I'd have him at Aberdeen in a shot (glasss).

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby eujin » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:29 pm

I was wondering how the book was coming along. It's rapidly turning into a history of Korean football and sounds like it's going to be very detailed. Are you submitting it as a thesis somewhere?

One of the books I've been enjoying recently is "Inverting the Pyramid" by Jonathan Wilson. He tracks the history of football tactics all over the world and I like his style. He recounts the story of Bela Guttmann, "the last defender of football's innocence", who managed at Boca Juniors, Milan, Sao Paolo and Porto before winning the European Cup with Benfica but not getting a win bonus. Wilson writes, "Two months later, he [moved on], ignoring the overtures of Third Division Port Vale to return to South America with the Uruguayan side Penarol." Unassuming, yet pretentious, I love it.

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:35 pm

It's going to be based upon the 2003 Busan I'cons season, but will also have lots of amusing anecdotes from earlier and later seasons.

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:09 pm

Now the phantom book is getting some exposure to the Korean market... next year you say?

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:53 am

The manuscript should be finished in December, or January at the latest. With both Koreas in the World Cup this time around, I would be a fool not to have it on UK bookshelves in time for the summer.

And if one of the two Koreas gets drawn into the same group as England... :smt119 :bounce: :smt117
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:26 am

Bucheon were winless in their first 21 matches in 2003 K-League season (and they lost their final 2002 match 5-0 against Suwon, so perhaps this could be viewed as a 22-match winless streak). Their illusive first win was finally earned when they were away to... wait for it... Busan.

Question: Does anyone know if this 21-/22-match winless streak is an all-time K-League record?
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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby Holyjoe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:19 am

I think it depends on whether you're looking for the longest run in the league proper, or lumping all the competitions run by the K-League together as they usually do when calculating stats.

I'd imagine that 21 game run would be the longest streak in any one league season, and chances are then the 22 games including the final match of the previous season is the longest period without a win in regular league competition. The official K-League record is 23 matches set by Gwangju last season, but that includes eight Hauzen Cup matches. They defeated Chunnam 3-1 on April 27th in the league and then had to wait until October 26th until they managed to win again, interestingly enough against Jeju at home.

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Re: Help me (finally) write my Korean footie book!

Postby MipoFanatic » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:34 am

Holyjoe wrote:The official K-League record is 23 matches set by Gwangju last season, but that includes eight Hauzen Cup matches. They defeated Chunnam 3-1 on April 27th in the league and then had to wait until October 26th until they managed to win again, interestingly enough against Jeju at home.

What a difference a year makes! Cheers, HJ.
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