2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Rothesay Saint » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:23 am

SteveW wrote:Sangju Suwon and Seoul all lose. Giftwrapping it for Daegu.

My bet is Daegu in the league.

Suwon to beat Eland. Sangju beat Suwon and Busan beat Sangju.


Going to see Daegu this afternoon, wonder if they'll be able to handle the pressure of a disinterested crowd of a couple of hundred in Wonju drizzle.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby SteveW » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:08 am

Can't tell the true ability of a player till they've tried a wet Tuesday night in Wonju.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Rothesay Saint » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:50 pm

I've underestimated both the crowd and Daegu. Must be over a thousand here and Daegu have played some nice football to be 2-1 up at half time.

Shame one of Gangwon's Brazilian suddenly turned into Pele for 10 minutes in the 2nd half. 3-2 Gangwon and the title race is still on.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Sampo » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:40 am

Suwon defeated Sangju 5-2 last night. Keeping things interestig for the playoff seedings.

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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby SteveW » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:49 pm

With a game against Chungju to come Daegu have more or less wrapped up the title bar a complete collapse in their final two games.

Sangju have a home game v Ansan to finish while Suwon have Bucheon and Gyeongnam and would probably need all 6 point to nab 2nd.

E-land are more or less assured 4th after a bogging 2nd half of the season.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:45 pm

Daegu doing their best to avoid automatic promotion, their 1-1 draw with Chungju today coupled with Sangju beating the coppers 3-0 means the military men have now finished their season and are top of the table ahead of Daegu by one point. Goal difference is the same (+20) but Sangju have scored considerably more goals than Daegu have so Daegu will need to beat Bucheon at home next weekend if they're to finish top.

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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:48 pm

It of course means Suwon's hopes of finishing top are still alive, though incredibly unrealistic - they'd need Daegu not to win their final match and also themselves beat Bucheon (A) and Gyeongnam (H) by a combined winning margin of at least 13 goals to pip Sangju on goal difference.

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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Alex43 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:55 pm

sangju has the bye on the last round of the season... that SUCKS when u are in for the title race! top 4 locked just going to see who gets the automatic spot and who will fight to bring down busan.... (there hasn't been any chatter in the classic box as to what people think of two teams going down this season as well... swapping daegu for busan doesnt make it any better, and pretty much takes out all soccer in the gyeongnam providence (which has belonged to baseball for quite sometime anyways...)
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:02 pm

Suwon could only draw 0-0 with Bucheon today so that's their hopes of finishing first or second over. They also missed the chance to cement third place and they're going to have to win next weekend against Gyeongnam to ensure they finish above E-Land as their goal difference is inferior and the Ferrets would finish third if they win and Suwon don't.

How things stand right now, with Sangju's season over:

Sangju 67 (+20)
Daegu 66 (+20)
Suwon 62 (+8)
Seoul 60 (+11)

Worth reiterating that a draw is no good for Daegu to finish top, they have to win as Sangju have scored more goals than them (77-57 compared to 66-46). The Ferrets have to win also, Suwon have the slight luxury of perhaps being able to take their foot off the gas if they get word that the Ferrets are two or three down in their game but it should be a fun round of final matches.

The final matches:

Goyang v Chungju
Ansan v Anyang
Suwon v Gyeongnam
Daegu v Bucheon
Gangwon v Seoul E

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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Rothesay Saint » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:35 pm

I see you are ruling out the possibility of a 12-12 draw between Daegu and Bucheon. Bucheon have been complicit in that kind of thing before, finishing the season with a 5-5 draw against the Zebras in 2008 much to the alleged delight of Macao bookmakers . Wonder what the K-league would do if they took it to the next level?

Quite looking forward to seeing the E-land come to Wonju next weekend, hopefully another decent crowd will convince Gangwon to play a few more games here next year.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby SteveW » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:47 pm

To be honest, E-Land might find it preferable to finish 4th as the only benefit of winning is a home game and E-Land's home form is shite. No real home advantage for Suwon in that stadium either with their tiny crowds.

E-Land have been pumped in their last two matches against Suwon so it's not looking promising.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby SteveW » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:17 am

Apparently Jonathan of Daegu might be off to Qatar in January. Good player and interesting that the foreign leagues are paying attention to the Challenge as well as the Classic.
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Rothesay Saint » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:57 pm

SteveW wrote:To be honest, E-Land might find it preferable to finish 4th as the only benefit of winning is a home game and E-Land's home form is shite. No real home advantage for Suwon in that stadium either with their tiny crowds.

E-Land have been pumped in their last two matches against Suwon so it's not looking promising.


Is it not the same as last year, where the biggest advantage is that if it's a draw, then the home team goes through?
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby SteveW » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:06 pm

Suwon and Eland don't do draws
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Re: 2015 K-League Challenge (K2) Rounds 21-36

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:28 pm

So a complete collapse from Daegu it is then, they miss out on automatic promotion on goals scored when one win in their final three matches would have guaranteed they went up.

Chungju still finish bottom but their thumping win today at least means the gap at the bottom isn't too bad.

Nov 22 results
Goyang 2-5 Chungju
Ansan 1-2 Anyang
Suwon 3-1 Gyeongnam
Daegu 1-1 Bucheon
Gangwon 4-4 Seoul E

Final Standings
Sangju 67 (P)
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Daegu 67
Suwon 65
Seoul 61
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Bucheon 55
Anyang 54
Gangwon 51
Goyang 49
Gyeongnam 43
Ansan 42
Chungju 41


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