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Re: 2013 K-League salaries

Postby eujin » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:37 am

It's good to see there's still some sympathy for footballers' salaries. :wink:

Suwonesque, you were very lucky if you were getting 2,000,000 per month to do a PhD in Daejeon. The regular university stipend amounts at KAIST are between 350,000 and 420,000. Some departments offer up to 900,000, just like BK21 does according to their website.

Research professors at Yonsei can get about 3,000,000 per month, with 2,000,000 for postdocs once they've completed their PhDs, which is about the same that they get at SNU.

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Re: 2013 K-League salaries

Postby Gambo » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:21 am

260 k is the averege salary per year from suwon?

i think that with the foreigners salaries this value should raise a lot, aren´t the salaries from k-league teams low compared to the j-league?

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Holyjoe » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:10 pm

A bump for this thread then with the salary details for 2014 that have been released today. There's been a bit of controversy over whether these figures should indeed be published but they have:

Of the eleven K-League Classic sides (not Sangju) the total wage bill is 754억 6,200만원, an average of 1억 9,300만원 per player.

The total wage bill for Korean players in those eleven sides is 576억 8,700만원, an average of 1억 6,300만원. That's up on last season (1억 4,600만원) though of course three of the lower paying sides have been relegated to K2.

The total wage bill for foreign players in those eleven sides is 177억 7,500만원, an average of 4억 9,400만원 per player.

In terms of specific clubs, Jeonbuk have the highest average per player of 3억 3,700만원, Suwon are second at 2억 9,000만원, Ulsan third with 2억 3,300만원 and Seoul fourth with 2억 1,400만원.

The top three earning Koreans are Lee Dong-guk (11억 1,400만원), Kim Shin-wook (10억 7,000만원) and Kim Doo-hyun at Suwon on 8억 3,200만원.

The top three earning foreign players are Seoul's Mauricio Molina (13억 2,400만원), Jeonbuk's Leonardo (11억 8,500만원) and Seongnam's Server Djeparov (11억 1,600만원).

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby SteveW » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:26 pm

Holyjoe wrote:A bump for this thread then with the salary details for 2014 that have been released today. There's been a bit of controversy over whether these figures should indeed be published but they have:

Of the eleven K-League Classic sides (not Sangju) the total wage bill is 754억 6,200만원, an average of 1억 9,300만원 per player.

The total wage bill for Korean players in those eleven sides is 576억 8,700만원, an average of 1억 6,300만원. That's up on last season (1억 4,600만원) though of course three of the lower paying sides have been relegated to K2.

The total wage bill for foreign players in those eleven sides is 177억 7,500만원, an average of 4억 9,400만원 per player.

In terms of specific clubs, Jeonbuk have the highest average per player of 3억 3,700만원, Suwon are second at 2억 9,000만원, Ulsan third with 2억 3,300만원 and Seoul fourth with 2억 1,400만원.

The top three earning Koreans are Lee Dong-guk (11억 1,400만원), Kim Shin-wook (10억 7,000만원) and Kim Doo-hyun at Suwon on 8억 3,200만원.

The top three earning foreign players are Seoul's Mauricio Molina (13억 2,400만원), Jeonbuk's Leonardo (11억 8,500만원) and Seongnam's Server Djeparov (11억 1,600만원).


Trying to do some quick 'fag packet' calculations for E-Land here... if they are expected to invest 20bn won over the next 2 years then if say 60% of that ends up in player salaries then I think you are talking about 60억 a year for the squad. Might be a bit more in Year 2 vs Year 1 (if they manage to get promoted) so maybe 70-80억 in player salaries.

A reasonably competitive budget then but not likely to be filling the team with superstars. Looking at those foreign player salaries maybe emphasises why Pohang are giving them a miss. That's a lot of money to be paying Molina not to play.
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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Holyjoe » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:54 am

This graphic from today shows how the four major sports leagues stack up against each other in terms of salary figures. Slightly more lucrative to be your average footballer than it is to be playing at rounders...

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Holyjoe » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:34 pm

Some figures on league salaries doing the rounds, this information for 2014 was made available by the KFA.. interesting to compare with the figures in the initial post to see how things have changed.

[ 2014 K리그 클래식 각 구단별 연봉총액 및 평균연봉 ]
< 팀명 - 연봉총액 - 평균연봉 >
전북현대 - 118억 900만원 - 3억 3,700만원
수원삼성 - 98억 6,300만원 - 2억 9,000만원
FC서울 - 87억 9,300만원 - 2억 1,400만원
울산현대 - 86억 1,600만원 - 2억 3,300만원
포항스틸러스 - 69억 2,700만원 - 1억 9,800만원
성남FC - 61억 2,300만원 - 1억 6,100만원
전남드래곤즈 - 49억 1,100만원 - 1억 5,300만원
인천유나이티드 - 48억 9,800만원 - 1억 4,000만원
제주유나이티드 - 48억 9,300만원 - 1억 4,800만원
부산아이파크 - 44억 7,400만원 - 1억 4,400만원
경남FC - 41억 5,500만원 - 1억 700만원
K리그 클래식 전체 연봉 총액 : 754억 6,200만원
K리그 클래식 전체 평균 연봉 : 1억 9,300만원
K리그 클래식 국내선수 전체 연봉 총액 : 576억 8,700만원
K리그 클래식 국내선수 전체 평균 연봉 : 1억 6,300만원
K리그 클래식 외국인선수 전체 연봉 총액 : 177억 7,500만원
K리그 클래식 외국인선수 전체 평균 연봉 : 4억 9,400만원
* 군팀인 상주상무에 소속된 선수들은 제외된 수치입니다.

[ 2014 K리그 챌린지 각 구단별 연봉총액 및 평균연봉 ]
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대구FC - 22억 9,400만원 - 7,000만원
광주FC - 22억 2,600만원 - 7,700만원
대전시티즌 - 21억 300만원 - 6,200만원
FC안양 - 17억 9,900만원 - 5,300만원
강원FC - 15억 7,800만원 - 5,400만원
수원FC - 12억 2,700만원 - 4,100만원
부천FC - 12억 1,700만원 - 3,300만원
충주험멜 - 11억 1,100만원 - 2,800만원
고양Hi - 9억 6,600만원 - 3,900만원
K리그 챌린지 전체 연봉 총액 : 145억 2,100만원
K리그 챌린지 전체 평균 연봉 : 5,000만원
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[ 2014 K리그 주요 선수 개인 연봉 ]
< 국내선수 >
1위 이동국(전북현대) 11억 1,400만원
2위 김신욱(울산현대) 10억 7,000만원
3위 김두현(수원삼성) 8억 3,200만원
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1위 몰리나(FC서울) 13억 2,400만원
2위 레오나르도(전북현대) 11억 8,500만원
3위 제파로프(성남FC) 11억 1,600만원

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Pikey » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:06 am

Holyjoe wrote:Some figures on league salaries doing the rounds, this information for 2014 was made available by the KFA.. interesting to compare with the figures in the initial post to see how things have changed.

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Gas1883 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:36 pm

Holyjoe wrote:Some figures on league salaries doing the rounds, this information for 2014 was made available by the KFA.. interesting to compare with the figures in the initial post to see how things have changed.

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1위 몰리나(FC서울) 13억 2,400만원


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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby Holyjoe » Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:46 am

Have Molina's earnings dropped somewhat because he didn't play as much during 2015? Interesting to note from the figures that thoughFC Seoul employed four foreign players he was getting paid the same as the other three players combined.
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Postby changwonmatty » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:04 pm

What surprised me is how greatly Gyeongnam's player salaries have slumped. From 4100 million in 2014 to 600 million in 2016. No wonder the team has gone to shit. Its much less than any other Challenge team was paying in 2014. Wonder how badly other teams salaries have evaporated?
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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby eujin » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:50 pm

changwonmatty wrote:What surprised me is how greatly Gyeongnam's player salaries have slumped. From 4100 million in 2014 to 600 million in 2016. No wonder the team has gone to shit. Its much less than any other Challenge team was paying in 2014. Wonder how badly other teams salaries have evaporated?

It looks like the average per player for Challenge clubs went up by ~15% from 2014 to 2015 (helped mainly by E-Land coming in at over double the average, but Suwon 2, Daegu and Bucheon also saw healthy jumps), while the average per player in the Classic went down by ~12%. Incheon and Busan saw the biggest drops there, but also Suwon 1 fell back.

Squad sizes are still too big. Daejeon and Chungju lead the way in the entire K-League system with 39. E-Land make do with quality over quantity at 27. Rennie obviously knows something; the average in League One in England is 28 and in the Scottish Premiership it's 23, just like at the World Cup. A squad of under 30 players and a playing budget of 1 billion won doesn't look impossible in the Challenge.

Changwonmatty, do you have the 2016 numbers for all teams or just the projection for Gyeongnam?

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby SteveW » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:26 pm

changwonmatty wrote:What surprised me is how greatly Gyeongnam's player salaries have slumped. From 4100 million in 2014 to 600 million in 2016. No wonder the team has gone to shit. Its much less than any other Challenge team was paying in 2014. Wonder how badly other teams salaries have evaporated?


Where did the 600m number come from? I don't think that's doable to be honest. Unless they completely strip the side.
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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby SteveW » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:36 pm

eujin wrote:
changwonmatty wrote:What surprised me is how greatly Gyeongnam's player salaries have slumped. From 4100 million in 2014 to 600 million in 2016. No wonder the team has gone to shit. Its much less than any other Challenge team was paying in 2014. Wonder how badly other teams salaries have evaporated?

It looks like the average per player for Challenge clubs went up by ~15% from 2014 to 2015 (helped mainly by E-Land coming in at over double the average, but Suwon 2, Daegu and Bucheon also saw healthy jumps), while the average per player in the Classic went down by ~12%. Incheon and Busan saw the biggest drops there, but also Suwon 1 fell back.

Squad sizes are still too big. Daejeon and Chungju lead the way in the entire K-League system with 39. E-Land make do with quality over quantity at 27. Rennie obviously knows something; the average in League One in England is 28 and in the Scottish Premiership it's 23, just like at the World Cup. A squad of under 30 players and a playing budget of 1 billion won doesn't look impossible in the Challenge.

Changwonmatty, do you have the 2016 numbers for all teams or just the projection for Gyeongnam?


I'm never sure about squad sizes - E-Land have fewer but they have no real youth system and not too many young guys hanging around making up numbers. Even then they had a few guys who basically got 0 game time last season. In reality the first team squad was too small to cope with the 44 games/2 matches a week schedule. The Challenge is pretty gruelling.

Having the smallest squad and the biggest budget suggests there were a few guys at E-Land being overpaid.

SPFL squads might be 23 technically (and that seems small) but they don't include young players generally who are often still part of the youth squads till 18/19/20. Random check Motherwell have 27 according to Wiki, St Johnstone have 21 at the club but 9 out on loan. There is a tendency to loan players out who aren't going to get game time to get them off the wage bill in Scotland, you don't see that quite so much in Korea in terms of short term loans.
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Postby eujin » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:34 pm

SteveW wrote:SPFL squads might be 23 technically (and that seems small) but they don't include young players generally who are often still part of the youth squads till 18/19/20. Random check Motherwell have 27 according to Wiki, St Johnstone have 21 at the club but 9 out on loan.

That 23 number for Scotland is based on this: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/scottish ... bewerb/SC1
The number sounded low to me as well, but then Aberdeen's wikipedia page has "During the 2015–16 season, Aberdeen have used twenty-two different players in competitive games." so it doesn't seem too far off. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%8 ... statistics

Did having 39 players help Daejeon or Chungju on the pitch? I'm not sure it did. When you're doing badly you're obviously going to want to chop and change more often than with a stable winning side, but it's unlikely that they're the ones doing the most to bring through talented youth players. And idle players drift toward idle pursuits. The numbers on transfermarkt show that Daejeon used 54 players last year. That's probably less than Martyr's did, but it's still too many. One of the things we've seen in England over the past decade or so is the big clubs signing up all the best young players and then farming them out to smaller clubs to get some match time, rather than them coming up through smaller clubs and then transferring for a fee like in the old days. It centralises the talent development in academies somehow, but I don't think it's a good idea for England, let alone Korea.

I don't understand how E-Land's squad was too small last year but they still had players who didn't play? Is that injuries? Or not enough injuries? Or they didn't rotate enough? Or they didn't have the depth? Do they have guys in the squad just making up the numbers, like Ahn Jung-hwan in South Africa?

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Re: K-League player salaries

Postby SteveW » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:39 pm

Chungju seem a bit odd. I think they are Martyrs-esque in that they had a load of crap players on short deals. Looking at the free agent list pretty much their whole squad was OOC at the end of the season. I think Daejeon had a similar problem in that they were trying to bring in players to fix problems but they weren't particularly good enough.

For E-Land although they had 29 players they really had a core squad of about 15/16 and the rest weren't good enough. There was also a bit of an imbalance in terms of positions as we seemed to have a lot have a lot of forwards and not many central midfielders for example. There were a lot of guys who were fresh out of uni teams and had never kicked a K-League ball in anger.

And then you had Ryan Johnson... who was no doubt on a big salary, and just shite.
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