2017 K-League Classic

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:27 am

Thank fuck the K3 starts again this weekend...

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:29 pm

Suwonesque wrote:Bluewings are doing fine, so I am following as much as I can. Good times now to be a Suwon fan.

Suwon haven't picked up a point since you said that.

Jeonbuk are pulling away again. The top six are also building up a gap from the bottom six. Incheon have had a couple of good results against nearby teams and have pulled away from the bottom leaving Gwangju all on their own.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:45 am

Niall McGinn hooked after 45 minutes for Gwangju today.. they were 1-0 down at the time, his replacement scored twice including what could have been a point-saving equaliser in the third minute of second half stoppage time before Sangju then went and scored a winner in the fourth additional minute.

Might do a bit more digging on McGinn's "impact" at Gwangju but it's just one win in his six appearances so far. He's taken six corner kicks across those six appearances, had four shots on goal and been caught offside once.

Suwon drew with Daegu today, Jeju take on Ulsan tomorrow in a match that sees 2nd face 3rd and will probably end up a draw. Jeonbuk sit six points ahead of both at the moment, they travel to Pohang and have the opportunity to open up quite a considerable lead at the top. A Jeonbuk win would probably ensure that the current top six sides (Jeonbuk, Jeju, Ulsan, Suwon, Seoul, Gangwon) remain in the top six after the split in four matches' time.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:04 am

Of course I was always going to do those digging through stats... McGinn has not completed a full 90 minutes for Gwangju yet, the longest he's played before getting taken off is 61 minutes. Three league starts, three league sub appearances and one FA Cup sub appearance. Nine more games left in the season, nine more games until his Korean experiment comes to an end? Whatever kind of deal he has signed at Gwangju there's no chance he'll be playing in K2.. a January move to somewhere like Birmingham, MK Dons or Hearts beckons.

On at 67' v Ulsan
On at 80' v Jeonbuk
Subbed at 59' v Jeonnam
Not selected v Pohang
Not selected v Suwon
Subbed at 61' v Daegu
On at 52' v Jeonbuk
N/A v Jeju
Unused v Incheon
Subbed at HT v Sangju

Subbed at 57' v Suwon in FA Cup

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:39 pm

Army team Sangju have been doing their best to tighten up the title race again, taking points off of both leaders Jeonbuk and second place Jeju. Jeonbuk also failed to beat lowly Daegu at home and are only three points ahead of Jeju and four ahead of Ulsan.

We're only two matches away from the split now and only Gangwon and Pohang can swap places. Gangwon are doing their best to give up their place in the top half picking up only two points in their last four matches, but Pohang are struggling to take advantage. Pohang are home to mighty Sangju and Suwon in their last two but will need Incheon to take points from Gangwon who also play Ulsan.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:29 pm

In the latest edition of McGinnwatch, our intrepid hero has seen his side play 180 minutes of football since the last update, losing 4-1at home to FC Seoul and drawing 1-1 at home to Gwangju, and 'see his side play' is exactly what he has done as he was an unused substitute for both matches.

Away to Jeju on Sunday and then home to Ulsan in the last pre-split match.. they're 11 points behind 11th with 21 currently to play for, would be going some to end up officially relegated before the split but it's a possibility I think.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:28 pm

Holyjoe wrote:would be going some to end up officially relegated before the split but it's a possibility I think.

Mathematics disagrees with you. :smt110

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:18 am

Yep hadn't fully looked into the final fixtures but it's the forthcoming Daegu-Incheon game that rules automatic relegation out before the end of the split. There's a few combinations of results that at worst would see them 15 points adrift of eleventh place with fifteen to play for...

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby RoqueJunior » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:50 am

Last round before the split and we will not have drama as the top 6 is already decided. Pohang received a late from Sangju and is all sealed. With that two points would have been another story...

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:30 am

Seven of the last nine K-League matches finished 1-1. The only team to have lost a match in the last two rounds is Jeonnam. The league is sleep-walking towards the split.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:28 pm

Not just the Classic that is limping towards the line... two 0-0 results in the Challenge today mean that 5 of the last 7 games have finished goalless. One of the two with goals was stopped from finishing goalless by an own goal in favour of Ansan Greeners in the fourth minute of second half injury time...

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:22 am

Have people just given up on football in Korea? The national team is uninspiring, the leagues are dull, K-League teams already long gone in the ACL, corruption, bribery, fake passports, treating foreigner players like dirt. The game is in a real state. Are people happy they qualified for the World Cup or did most just shrug their shoulders? I'm heading out that way on Thursday so it'll be interesting to see what the atmosphere is.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby daeguowl » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:11 am

eujin wrote:Have people just given up on football in Korea? The national team is uninspiring, the leagues are dull, K-League teams already long gone in the ACL, corruption, bribery, fake passports, treating foreigner players like dirt. The game is in a real state. Are people happy they qualified for the World Cup or did most just shrug their shoulders? I'm heading out that way on Thursday so it'll be interesting to see what the atmosphere is.


The once-every-two-years casual fans are happy to have qualified; the more serious fans seem to think it would have been better to crash out and clear house

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby eujin » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:46 am

I don't fully follow the logic of wishing your team doesn't qualify for the World Cup. They have half a year now to knock the team into some sort of shape before Russia 2018. They'd be doing well to get out of the group anyway and they're overdue being in a tough group. The game has been through over a decade of immense growth in Korea and there's bound to be some problems with that. I don't see how failing to qualify helps unless you want to knock Korean football back to its foundations and start rebuilding from scratch. Hoping that the KFA could have a longer planning time-frame than the four-year World Cup cycle is asking a lot from a Korean organisation. It requires the kind of knock-everything-down-and-rebuild approach that Kim Jong-un could help with and that would definitely not be good.

There are certainly problems in the league. I hope that introducing promotion/relegation has helped, but maybe they need to go back to the championship playoffs to make sure someone doesn't run away with the league title.

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Re: 2017 K-League Classic

Postby daeguowl » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:48 pm

It's similar to the situation in England where people believe that the FA needs serious reform but also that continued qualification is acceptable enough that no reform happens. Many Korean fans believe that the KFA is mis-managing the game in Korea and if they had failed to wualify then those at the top would have resigned to take responsibility giving the chance for a root and branch attempt to reform.


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