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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:23 pm

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anamerican wrote:Well we can have lousy grass because everyone else has lousy grass. That isn't a good excuse. We should have top notch grass at every stadium. The only sand should be under the grass.


Aye.. I thought Tancheon's grass is now ready but they don't say like that.. I think they prefer to play on that 'tough' pitch.. Tho' Kim Do-hyeon's mid-range shot would be blocked if there were no bouncy with grass!

are ye comin' tae Daegu game? then we might see at Moran ;) I'm always sit(usually stand and yell!) in front of the Korean National Flag..


I usually sit behind the road bench. Last Sunday, I sat behind the red VIP carpet. There was a group of soccer playing NY City Firefighters / Police sitting near me. I had to explain that the blue fans yelling was not the home team. I like a good view of Seongnam's coach yelling at the players. This time I wanted to sit behind the broadcasters / producers so I could see their TV screens. I hardly looked at them though.
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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:11 pm

Here's a possible suggestion, also expensive. To have better sight lines to the field, lower the field by a meter or maybe a bit more.

Also, I have a question. Are all K-league pitches Olympic or Fifi regulation size? I'm going to assume the World Cup stadiums are the correct size.

When lowing the pitch, increase it's size to the correct size if it isn't the correct size already.

I had to post this suggestion because this thread hadn't been active in a while. ;)
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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby kingkenny7 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:35 pm

anamerican wrote:Here's a possible suggestion, also expensive. To have better sight lines to the field, lower the field by a meter or maybe a bit more.

Also, I have a question. Are all K-league pitches Olympic or Fifi regulation size? I'm going to assume the World Cup stadiums are the correct size.

When lowing the pitch, increase it's size to the correct size if it isn't the correct size already.

I had to post this suggestion because this thread hadn't been active in a while. ;)


There was the exactly same opinion before when the debate was among K-League supporters, but as I told you before, most of the stadiums are occupied with City Council.. Have no chance till they make a decision like that!

The reason why most of the public stadia have a track is for National Competition and public leisure they said. I hate that logic. If you want to make a track with Stadia then make it alongside of fitba stadia, not inside of it.
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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:07 pm

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anamerican wrote:Here's a possible suggestion, also expensive. To have better sight lines to the field, lower the field by a meter or maybe a bit more.

Also, I have a question. Are all K-league pitches Olympic or Fifi regulation size? I'm going to assume the World Cup stadiums are the correct size.

When lowing the pitch, increase it's size to the correct size if it isn't the correct size already.

I had to post this suggestion because this thread hadn't been active in a while. ;)


There was the exactly same opinion before when the debate was among K-League supporters, but as I told you before, most of the stadiums are occupied with City Council.. Have no chance till they make a decision like that!

The reason why most of the public stadia have a track is for National Competition and public leisure they said. I hate that logic. If you want to make a track with Stadia then make it alongside of fitba stadia, not inside of it.


I remember. I know the city council controls stadiums. And in this case, Seongnam has a dumb rule or whoever made that dumb rule. Anyways, I feel city councils can be manipulated. Go to some some city council people who want to get reelected or are trying to run and fund their campaigns to get the laws changed. Seems dishonest, but in this football related case it isn't. I'm not trying to use the city council to put anyone out of a job or kill anyone. We would just be working to get what is fair done. If it's seongnam's law, maybe Ilwa will leave.
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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:28 pm

I think Seongnam's lack of fan support means they don't need seats at the four corners of their imaginary new stadium.
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Postby kingkenny7 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:45 pm

anamerican wrote:I think Seongnam's lack of fan support means they don't need seats at the four corners of their imaginary new stadium.


lol I think the New St. Mirren Stadium. That kind of stadium is the best for Seongnam.
Capacity is around 8,000 so it might be full.

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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:16 pm

Full? :smt104 8000? Full? :smt104 Seongnam regularly gets about 800 fans. Maybe 1100 for a game against Seoul. :smt080

Let's see how many real fans show up Sunday. 8) Won't be many, I suspect. :roll:

:arrow: Doesn't look THAT good, but that IS the kind of stadium I'm talking about. :!:
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Postby Rothesay Saint » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:27 am

If you think the stadium isn't that good, you should see the way St. Mirren play football. :albino:

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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby Cyclops » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:00 am

First pics I've seen of New Love Street (sounds like a gay porno), and it looks like an eminently sensible ground for a club of that size. Tight on the pitch, proper cover on all 4 sides to keep out the rain and maybe generate some acoustics, big enough for a few games a season against the old firm but not so big it feels desolate the rest of the time. No idea how it actually feels on a matchday though, so maybe I'm hyping it up too much. But it looks to me like exactly the kind of thing Korean clubs should be looking at, although with terracing behind the goals of course.

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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:54 am

Cyclops wrote:First pics I've seen of New Love Street (sounds like a gay porno), and it looks like an eminently sensible ground for a club of that size. Tight on the pitch, proper cover on all 4 sides to keep out the rain and maybe generate some acoustics, big enough for a few games a season against the old firm but not so big it feels desolate the rest of the time. No idea how it actually feels on a matchday though, so maybe I'm hyping it up too much. But it looks to me like exactly the kind of thing Korean clubs should be looking at, although with terracing behind the goals of course.


I'm thinking very few fans want to be seated in such a way that players heads are above them. I'm suspecting a good stadium would have the first row of fan's heads at just above player heads.

Secondly, I'm thinking sponsors and rich fans may want luxury seats. I'd try to incorporate lux seats some how probably above the fans in a sort of ring around the stadium.

The roof would extend out to about 1-3 meters over the pitch.

Considering the "corners" of the stadium are not desirable seats, I would consider various shops. This probably wouldn't work HERE, but putting a Starbucks that would be able to operate year round with a porch overlooking the pitch is what I'm thinking about. Various fast food might work in ideal conditions, but I understand the game is only two hours long and operating year round would be a challenge so again, it's probably just a pipe dream. If the stadium was surrounded by malls and department stores in a popular area it might work. Maybe build a shopping mall into the corner of the stadium or something. Seoul World Cup stadium has a grocery store in it and a CGV for example. I'd consider this sort of thing just on one corner of the stadium and not in such a way that it distracts from the pitch. I would consider the pitch and fans first and this "mall" last.

Looking at the images above, which I think is a GREAT starting point, I'd raise the seats and connect the corners with some sort of walkway, put lux boxes above the fans in the back for sponsors and rich fans who want that kind of thing, I'd extend the roof and put a shop or two in the corners with a porch so fans could sit and see the action. I'd also put restrooms in the corners. I'd enclose the thing to keep fans dryer and make the outside look more attractive.
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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby Sampo » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:30 am

Another possibility is that of a "convention center" attached to stadiums.

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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:37 am

Sampo wrote:Another possibility is that of a "convention center" attached to stadiums.


Seattle has that. Between the two stadiums is a convention center, but the three structures aren't connected.

I think the point we're grabbing at is how to make the stadium profitable without making it an eyesore and lousy for the fans. Steel Yard is a nice place.
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Postby Holyjoe » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:18 pm

If we're following the Scottish football theme, then what you've described is pretty similar to the setup at Livingston's stadium. There's a hotel in one of the corners, a pub just outside the main stand and a shopping centre across the road. Been there a few times and it's a decent enough stadium which would be perfect for Korean football.

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Postby eujin » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:15 pm

This could be posted lots of places, but look what I found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7aKOl9sN54

Ringing endorsement for my mate Choi Hyo-jin too. Great minds think alike, although it may have been JD that predicted Al-Ittihad would win 2-1 in the ACL final on goal.com

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Re: K League - Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma - Tancheon Stadium

Postby anamerican » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:05 am

eujin wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7aKOl9sN54




Great job in silencing this thread. :)
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