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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby paquebot » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:21 pm

Looks like there's a bit more information about Uijeongbu FC out on the web now.

* Squad List Here A 28 man squad, and it looks like everyone is ~20 years old. 장세영 is the oldest player at 23.

* Speaking of 장세영, there's an interview with him here. Seems his goal is to get a transfer to a J-League side.
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* There's also an interview with 김희태. Is that his secret playbook he's showing off?

* Another article about the club. This one explains that 신학영 and 박승렬 came from FC Seoul (2013 U18 Team Draft Picks) and 박지수 is from Incheon United's youth academy. The club names were included next to the player names in the squad list but I didn't even notice them the first time I glanced at the page.

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Is the team playing in black?
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby OttoSilver » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:56 am

Their team list on the wiki page is pretty up to date, it seems. There are three Korean nationals in the team and reading the history they did start out as a team composed mostly of players from the local ethnic Koreans. That is interesting.

I wonder if we can start a team in Korea composed mostly of ethnic South Africans?
(Can't use anyone else because that then they might turn into an actual decent team)
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby Martyrs Forever » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:26 pm

@Yanbian thing. There are a lot of Korean speakers up there in the North-East. From my time in China, I would say that the Chinese second tier is of a higher standard than the Challengers' League.

@SeoulFox - good to have the old Zebras banter back....even though you've gone down south and started following some dragons. Probably reading The Hobbit too...in your little cave...with your fairy boots on....and your big poster of naked Gandalf on your wall in your Harry Potter duvet bed in your little bedroom...

@Uijeongbu - more cabbages...just what we need!

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby OttoSilver » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:41 pm

paquebot wrote:Looks like there's a bit more information about Uijeongbu FC out on the web now.


Thanks for the info. I can finally give them a kit look on the wiki page. Still need to find a decently sized club badge though.

Don't think I'm going to add the squat. It is to much work keeping more than two or three teams up to date, so I am slowly removing all the squad lists that are not up to date, and that is pretty much all of them. I think the newest update I was was 2 years ago.

It is interesting that they have only young players. I would have said that statistically 23 is the best time to get a player, but since they are an amateur club I'm guessing that they cant exactly get them young, develop them and sell them if they cant keep them from joining a bigger team.
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby SeoulFox » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:54 pm

Martyrs Forever wrote: @SeoulFox - good to have the old Zebras banter back....even though you've gone down south and started following some dragons. Probably reading The Hobbit too...in your little cave...with your fairy boots on....and your big poster of naked Gandalf on your wall in your Harry Potter duvet bed in your little bedroom...


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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby Martyrs Forever » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:58 am

What's with the Dragons thing then?

I'm coming back in the summer but will miss both the Zebra games.

I think we love one another really...

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby sjc_three » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:00 pm

paquebot wrote:* There's also an interview with 김희태.

Jesus, seems a bit of a gamble. Not sure he'll manage to see out the season. He looks like he's about to drop. Is that Death in the background, loitering with intent, or just one of his players?

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby SeoulFox » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:27 pm

Martyrs Forever wrote:What's with the Dragons thing then?

I'm coming back in the summer but will miss both the Zebra games.

I think we love one another really...


With one thing and another I won't be able to get to many games so I thought I'd give the K League a go. And Jeonnam is far away enough that I won't be itching to go to all the home games!

If you're back in the summer there's always the game in October unless you are running scared.

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:15 pm

Pretty low-scoring day so far, with two more games underway this evening:

Seoul United 2-1 Icheon
Youngkwang 0-1 Pocheon
Gimpo 2-3 Chuncheon
Jungnang 2-0 Goyang
Jeonju 1-0 Paju
Gwangsan 1-2 Uijeongbu

Yangju host Hwaseong and Gyeongju take on Cheongju tonight.

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby Holyjoe » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:19 pm

Tonight's results:

Yangju 0-2 Hwaseong
Gyeongju 0-1 Cheongju

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby paquebot » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:13 am

Holyjoe wrote:Yangju 0-2 Hwaseong


Wow, you're quick. I just got home from the Yangju match and thought I'd be the first to post the scores from today.

Hwaseong scored their first goal around the 37th minute when a ball was lobbed over the Yangju defense and one of their forwards was able to speed past his marker to fire past keeper 김세준. Yangju's keeper made one rather acrobatic save before that and was generally solid with his positioning throughout the match -- just a couple of 1 vs 1 situations that he didn't handle well. Yangju made it forward often enough but were let down by some extremely poor passing in the final third.

Yangju picked up the pace in the second half and made 3 substitutions in the 70th minute, then a fourth in the 75th minute. I'll never understand why the K3 lets teams make so many substitutions. They ended up with several free kicks near the Hwaseong goal but only one of them - a 신민수 header - resulted in a shot on target. Hwaseong scored their second 10 seconds before the end. They caught Yangju with a fast counter attack, the keeper rushed out but missed collecting the ball, and a quick tap-in was all it took to make the score 0-2 at the death.

Yangju has a new coach this season who is much less prone to yelling than our previous one. Also, former Yangju player 신영록 is now on the coaching staff for Hwaseong. We had a short chat after the match and he seemed pretty excited to get the job. Well, at least he didn't join Pocheon ...
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby OttoSilver » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:39 am

I was at the Seoul United - Icheon game today. My very first Challengers League game.

All round I was pretty impressed with the whole setup. I don't know what it is like at other small venues, but this was nice and cozy with everyone close enough to the action. The action on the field was also much more entertaining that I thought it would be, although comparing it to The Shiny Ones lately that is not saying much.

Icheon was putting on the pressure in the early minutes and looked the better side for large parts of the game, but Seoul managed to get sudden breaks that turned the game on it's head. The game headed into half time with Seoul leading 2-0.

Not to far into the second half Icheon pulled one back and made a few threatening gestures towards the goal every now and then. The whole think kind of blew up though, or came to life, depending on how you look at it, when Icheon got a corner in the final seconds. They managed to put the ball in the net but it was not allowed. Like most footballers, the Icheon players just don't seem to grasp that REFEREES DON'T CHANGE THEIR DECISIONS AS A REWARD FOR YOUR ARGUING!

It got even more heated when some of the coaching staff walked onto the field where they players and referees were still arguing. As the refs came off the field two off the support staff decided that they had to get aggressive and had to be held back by the players.

I'm still not sure what was going on but one women manages to find out that the Seoul keeper had done something, but as my Korean is not what you would call stellar, I know nothing more than that. Maybe I can find something on a translated club page.

Non game related, Seoul United had their very own hardcore home support there. 5 guys with shirts that I guess they got from the players themselves beating a drum and singing all game long. These guys are so close to the players that when the team went to kick balls into the crowd they pretty much just walked up to the group and handed them three balls :)

During half time I went to get a photo the Noisemakers and as I left some random dude higher up the stand handed me a Cass. Before the game started one of the Icheon support staff was loitering around and decided to come over and give me a water. He must have seen the only Waegook swallowing like Jesus on day 39 and though to take pity on him. I like the friendly people here.

My first experience of the Challengers League was quite pleasant and I'm convinced I will get to a few more. I MUST get to a Martyrs game this season.
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby paquebot » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:57 am

Glad to hear you had a good time at your first Challengers League game. Nowon's Madeul Stadium (where Seoul United play) is just the right size for a Challengers League side -- the team gets enough fans where the place looks like it has a decent attendance even if there aren't too many people there. It's much better than the 20,000+ seat stadiums that some of the clubs call home.

OttoSilver wrote:Non game related, Seoul United had their very own hardcore home support there. 5 guys with shirts that I guess they got from the players themselves beating a drum and singing all game long.


That's the only way I know of to get jerseys for the Challengers League clubs. I've got two Yangju jerseys that came straight from the players. Wish I'd asked for one of last season's away jerseys, as they're much better looking than what the club has now.
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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby sjc_three » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:08 am

paquebot wrote:
OttoSilver wrote:Non game related, Seoul United had their very own hardcore home support there. 5 guys with shirts that I guess they got from the players themselves beating a drum and singing all game long.


That's the only way I know of to get jerseys for the Challengers League clubs. I've got two Yangju jerseys that came straight from the players. Wish I'd asked for one of last season's away jerseys, as they're much better looking than what the club has now.

Not sure that's totally correct. I reminder a few years ago expressing my surprise at not only being able to pick up a Gyeongju shirt at a game there, but a child size one for my son (my surprise being based principally on my experience from the N-League where it was quite unheard of) and someone replying on here that the Challengers League were much better organised in terms of gear for supporters. Not sure if that's still the case.

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Re: 2014 Challengers League season

Postby Martyrs Forever » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:08 am

@SeoulFox - only for a holiday.

@Otto - welcome to Challengers' glory....get up to the 'Buk, brother!

@paquebot - I think you boys are going to be eating your cabbage with wooden spoons this year!

@sjc - I didn't get a sniff of a Martyrs shirt in three years....home and away I was there... and nothing! The whole concept of a club shop falls down when you don't have any real supporters...except a lonely foreigner and a mental patient with a drum.

Great result for the Martyrs this weekend....didn't concede any!


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